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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby Dustpan » May 11th, 2015, 10:27 am

Tim, I think that may have been a small typq... :lolno:
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Postby wileycoyote » May 12th, 2015, 7:21 pm

Dustpan wrote:Tim, I think that may have been a small typq... :lolno:

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » May 15th, 2015, 3:57 pm

The GPz has a really really really really big big bore kit... :mrgreen:

In other news, I just got back from the DMV where I got new registration and stickers for GS1100. Riding it there is definitely the longest trip the bike has been on since 2005, when it was last registered. Still have some shifting issues. But nothing that a complete engine strip can't fix.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » May 17th, 2015, 5:08 pm

Sunday and the sun came out. Wife was out doing "stuff". So I took the GS1100 for a shakedown run. Which really means I went for a coffee. One cup of coffee, slab of chocolate cake, and 35 miles later, it seems like I have a running bike. Carbs a still a bit glitchy just off idle. I'm hoping a couple tanks of gas will help clear things out. Shifting better than it was. Gets pretty vibby between 4000 and 5000 rpm. But it's really nice to ride other than that. And it didn't fall apart on me.

Still lots to do... mostly cosmetically, as with all my bikes. Everything needs paint.

Maybe, weather permitting, motivation holding, and wife approving, I should try riding it to Saturday morning coffee sometime soon.

Here are a couple pics post ride.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby Dougo » July 4th, 2015, 2:50 pm

Very nice!
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby RickRick » July 5th, 2015, 10:05 pm

That's almost original Katana'ish

Very cool
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » September 6th, 2015, 10:20 am

OK... new update.

So I've spent the past couple years or so trying to figure out painting... using rattle cans... without a decent place to set up... My efforts have been intermittent (explains the couple year effort). And the results have been less then stellar. But I'm too cheap to pay someone. Besides, I have a garage full of bikes that all need paint. So I figure I better learn how to do it.

Over the last couple months I've decided I've had enough trying to get the GPz 750 paint perfect. Lucky for me my expectations for paint rival that of my taste for food - I have pretty low standards. I have therefore decided "OK" is good enough for me and have set about putting the GPz 750 back together. Once I have all the body parts in place I will finally add the new vinyl graphics that I bought over a year ago. I have some really cool graphics for the bike. At the moment you will have yo use your imagination. But picture standard swoopy pattern but in 1999 Kawasaki ZRX 1100 Purple/White. I'm sure it'll look good once I'm done... as long as you don't get too close.

I should mention that the bike runs. I just tuned and synched the carbs a couple weeks ago. I just need to buy about $100 worth of grommets and other assorted rubber components to be able to get all the body parts back on properly. Oh... and I can't find the right key for the gas cap. That's annoying... :facepalm:

OK... since we all like pictures... this is where I ended up yesterday.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby wileycoyote » September 6th, 2015, 3:09 pm

That's better than I could do. Looks good.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » February 6th, 2016, 5:36 pm

Greetings All:

Well, it's been a productive winter... I think. Well, we'll see once it's warm enough and dry enough to ride again. So here is what I've accomplished:

'82 Honda CB900F:
Late last fall I went to start it one day and it just wouldn't. Spent about 8 weeks checking all kinds of stuff. Finally came down to carb issues mostly related to flooding. So some new carb parts and not one, but two complete goes at cleaning and I finally got the old girl to fire up again. I have a new gas tank for it. Just need to give it a rinse and it'll be fine. I threw on a set of Renthal ultra low bars and some stainless brake lines. Just need to do a carb synch and adjust and she should be ready for summer.

'84 Kawasaki GPz 1100:
Last on this bike was an annoying ticking sound when the bike warms up. It sounds like a valve issue. But I've checked everything. I've adjusted the valves and checked valve clearance several times and that's all good. I though maybe I have a stretched cam chain. But no, that is well within tolerance. I've adjusted the APE manual cam chain tensioner... again. I even pulled the engine last summer and split the case halves to try and find something. But I've come up wit nothing. OH... and I am on my second head - and get the same noise (valves from the second head I might add). So now that I've got it all back together we'll just have to see what happens. Maybe I'll just run it till something blows and then I'll know what the problem was :)

'83 Kawasaki GPz 750:
The GPz is read to go. Well, about as ready as I'm going to get it. I can't get the paint any better. It looks OK from a distance. But once up close you can see the inconsitency. I do have a nice custom graphics kit for the bike. I'm just a bit scared to try and put it on. Plus I'm not sure I won't have someone paint the bike properly. We'll see. In any event, here is a pic, cuz we all like pic's.

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'83 Suzuki GS1100ES:
It was running OK when I parked it at the end of last season. I actually quite like riding the thing. Body needs work (as with all my bikes). But I'll get to that. The engine still makes some really terrible noises if the RPM drops too low. We are talking 800 - 1200 RPM. Sounds like the tranny is bouncing around. Not confidence inspiring. But once you get going and run it at 3000 RPM it runs great. Nice and smooth. So I haven't done anything with that one... yet

'86 Yamaha FZ600:
OK... here is the funny one... BOTH FZ engines that I have make the same sort of noise as the GS engine, if revs drop too low. I actually started tearing apart the original FZ engine today. I figure it's just sitting in the garage doing nothing. So I may as well take it apart and see what I can see. Plus, I have a big bore block sitting on the shelf that I've been meaning to add. So that's the current project. Figure out if the engine is actually solid or if there is something weird going on.

And that's pretty much the garage. Well, except for my '78 GS 1000 which I haven't done anything with yet. Oh... and the wifes bike (Zephyer 550) runs fine.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby schmidt314 » February 7th, 2016, 3:22 pm

A couple things I would be checking prior to engine tear downs would be the following

1. I would hook up an oil pressure gauge and see what the oil pressure is at start up and when full hot.

2. I have also found in many cases the engine noises think are engine related are clutch related, especially when described as you have. When idling pull the clutch in and out while in neutral. Does it change the noise at all? Then pull clutch in and put in gear. What now? Then still at idle let the clutch out a bit so it just starts to load the engine a bit. What now? This in some cases can tell you if it is clutch or main/rods or other.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby wileycoyote » February 7th, 2016, 8:12 pm

Dang. You've been busy.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby Dougo » March 4th, 2016, 5:34 pm

I'm sure this isn't the ticking noise, but I had a similar issue. I did a valve job on a VW rabbit many moons ago, which didn't take care of it.. after a lot (A LOT) of taking apart and putting back together, and doing the listen with a screw driver in your ear thing, I located the general area the noise was coming from.. I noticed a flat spot on one of the cam lobes.. Never did take it apart to fix it.. Got it back together with plans to take care of it later, and the next day got broadsided by and old guy in a 80 something chevy impala.. He had run the stop sign and hit me at about 45 mph, turning the poor rabbit into a U shaped car.. ringing my bell and cracking two of my ribs.. rang my dog's bell too.. He got out of his car and started coming at me on his walker shouting "it's not my fault! it's not my fault!" Settled with the insurance company for $12,000. end of story.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby RickRick » March 8th, 2016, 1:19 pm

I think we need a field trip to Gil's Garage... or a webcam that we can catch all the action!
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » April 30th, 2016, 6:42 pm

Hi All... Now that summer is (almost) here, a little update.

The green GPz 750 appears to be running very well. Amazingly smooth since the last tune and carb synch. I'm quite happy (though it still looks pretty suspect up close).

My '82 Honda CB900F is also running just great. I threw on some Renthal Superbike bars and steel braided front brake lines and tuned/synched the carbs. Feels like it needs rearset foot pegs. I've not found an easy solution for that one. Maybe someday.

My '83 GS1100ES is running. But the transmission sounds really bad at sub 2000 rpm. Sounds like it's all bouncing around in there. It's also pretty tough to shift when cold. A bit better once all warmed up. Have my eye on a replacement transmission. Already replaced the clutch basket (known issue) and have new clutch plates. So we'll see what happens with that one. But I really like riding that thing. The riding position is damn near perfect.

My '84 GPz 1100 is finally back on the road. Thought I had a major electrical issue. Looked at it today and it turned out to be a loose wire on the starter solenoid. Once that was sorted I went for a nice little ride today. That is definitely a big heavy bike. Going to probably be my "highway" bike. Not that I ride on the highway much.

I have the engine all torn apart for my '86 FZ 600. New bearings arrived the other day. Need to measure up and order new plain crank bearings. And I have a big bore kit cylinder block and pistons that I picked up a bunch of years ago. So I need to contact Cometic (or similar) and order a custom head gasket to fit (or two or three).

Here is a pic of my GPz 1100 from today (after I washed it).

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby schmidt314 » April 30th, 2016, 7:39 pm

63ronin wrote:Hi All... Now that summer is (almost) here, a little update.

The green GPz 750 appears to be running very well. Amazingly smooth since the last tune and carb synch. I'm quite happy (though it still looks pretty suspect up close).

My '82 Honda CB900F is also running just great. I threw on some Renthal Superbike bars and steel braided front brake lines and tuned/synched the carbs. Feels like it needs rearset foot pegs. I've not found an easy solution for that one. Maybe someday.

My '83 GS1100ES is running. But the transmission sounds really bad at sub 2000 rpm. Sounds like it's all bouncing around in there. It's also pretty tough to shift when cold. A bit better once all warmed up. Have my eye on a replacement transmission. Already replaced the clutch basket (known issue) and have new clutch plates. So we'll see what happens with that one. But I really like riding that thing. The riding position is damn near perfect.

My '84 GPz 1100 is finally back on the road. Thought I had a major electrical issue. Looked at it today and it turned out to be a loose wire on the starter solenoid. Once that was sorted I went for a nice little ride today. That is definitely a big heavy bike. Going to probably be my "highway" bike. Not that I ride on the highway much.

I have the engine all torn apart for my '86 FZ 600. New bearings arrived the other day. Need to measure up and order new plain crank bearings. And I have a big bore kit cylinder block and pistons that I picked up a bunch of years ago. So I need to contact Cometic (or similar) and order a custom head gasket to fit (or two or three).

Here is a pic of my GPz 1100 from today (after I washed it).

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » May 7th, 2016, 12:48 pm

OK... I've ordered new custom head gasket for the FZ. Thought I'd get two since it never hurts to have a spare and they are custom size since I'm installing the big bore block I have.

Now the next problem... I was going to get new plain bearings for the crank. I just checked and it seems plain bearings for that motor are now obsolete. Any suggestions on alternate sources for plain bearings? I'm like... OMG!

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Re: Gil's Garage...

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby schmidt314 » May 9th, 2016, 1:31 pm

wileycoyote wrote:Call McGuire Bearing Company.

I don't think they do plain bearing shells but I could be wrong.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby schmidt314 » May 9th, 2016, 1:55 pm

63ronin wrote:OK... I've ordered new custom head gasket for the FZ. Thought I'd get two since it never hurts to have a spare and they are custom size since I'm installing the big bore block I have.

Now the next problem... I was going to get new plain bearings for the crank. I just checked and it seems plain bearings for that motor are now obsolete. Any suggestions on alternate sources for plain bearings? I'm like... OMG!



I hope the info I sent you on the head gaskets worked out for you.

Wow, DISCO(ontinued) on the bearings is not good. All sizes and all positions, uppers and lowers? ( I am not sure if use a different bearing on different journals for oiling purposes or different uppers and lowers) Some times smooth bearing positions can be replaced with channeled type if needed.

What I have done in the past once, it took a bunch of time, but I was able to find a later model bike that had the right IDs after looking through a whole bunch of service manuals. I found 2 possible candidates. I ordered one of each to see what I could do. One of the ones I ordered had a locating tab in the correct location, oil holes were close and appeared it might work but was too wide. I had them machined a bit to narrow them and they worked fine. I just ordered a second one so I had a set, modified them and then was able to install in to each location and measure sizing. Did some quick numbers and ordered the correct sizing to complete the sets.

nightmare, but it is a possibility... Check rod and mains for bikes just past those years and see if any dimensions start to match up, even search between brands.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby wileycoyote » May 10th, 2016, 6:53 pm

schmidt314 wrote:
wileycoyote wrote:Call McGuire Bearing Company.

I don't think they do plain bearing shells but I could be wrong.
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I could totally be wrong too. Just the first company that I know of that came to mind that might be able to help.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby Dougo » May 17th, 2016, 3:29 pm

Good read guys. Great information. Sounds fun.. MUST FIND PROJECT... (must find money first...)
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby wileycoyote » May 17th, 2016, 11:16 pm

Dougo wrote:Good read guys. Great information. Sounds fun.. MUST FIND PROJECT... (must find money first...)

Hahaha. You've barely finished the last one. Big projects do that though, don't they? You're hooked now.
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby Dougo » June 1st, 2016, 4:16 pm

wileycoyote wrote:
Dougo wrote:Good read guys. Great information. Sounds fun.. MUST FIND PROJECT... (must find money first...)

Hahaha. You've barely finished the last one. Big projects do that though, don't they? You're hooked now.


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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » July 10th, 2016, 11:46 am

Hi All:

First, my poor FZ600 engine and bearing issue. Well, after sitting on my backside for weeks and being too lazy to call bearing shops, for some reason this morning I decided to look at Amazon. And low and behold, almost all the bearings I needed for my little motor. So those are now ordered and maybe I can once again make some progress on the FZ motor.

In the meantime, wife's Zephyr 550 had been making noises for a while. I knew it was the cam chain guides (not the tensioner - you'll see why in the pics). So I ordered loads of new parts including new guides, o-rings, complete gasket kit, and even new piston rings. Unfortunately I didn't order everything all at the same time. So it has taken me a while to get her bike back together. At one point it looked like this (see pic below... cuz we all like pics)

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The bike is now mostly back together and looks like this (again, see below)

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Funny thing, I couldn't find a complete gasket kit for a Zephyr 550. So I ordered one for a GPz 550 because we all know that's the same engine... right. :facepalm:
WELL... seems Kawasaki, somewhere along the line, changed the valve cover shape just a bit between the GPz and the Zephyr. Who new. I didn't even notice while I was putting it together. Then, started it up... engine sounds way better than it did before... and everything was going just grand, up until oil started pouring out of the valve cover in a couple places. I thought "hmmm... that's not supposed to happen". I was so tired by that point (two weekends of long days rebuilding - and I ain't getting any younger). I just put a pan under it and went to Taco Bell. In the morning (7:00 no less) I was taking it apart again and then realized the error. Waiting for a new proper valve cover gasket which should show up tomorrow... finally. And if you're wondering, I actually properly preped the cylinders for the new rings using a flex hone.

Having not much else to do this weekend and having ordered new fork seals and bushings, I rebuilt the forks yesterday for the Zephyr. So once it is back on the road it should be good to go. Oh... and had the seat recovered by a shop in Hillsboro. They did a dang nice job and even powder coated the seat brackets because they looked worn. $200 and orange stitching to boot (to match the future color of the bike).

I also fixed something on my GS1100ES... but I'm tired of typing. So I'll save that for the next installment... :clap:

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Postby 63ronin » July 16th, 2016, 7:03 pm

OK... I've finally got one bike that actually looks half decent. my '82 CB900F has paint and graphics. Neither went on perfect. But it's good enough for me to live with.

As usual, here is a picture.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby schmidt314 » July 16th, 2016, 8:28 pm

63ronin wrote:OK... I've finally got one bike that actually looks half decent. my '82 CB900F has paint and graphics. Neither went on perfect. But it's good enough for me to live with.

As usual, here is a picture.

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A big ol set of Keihin CR smooth bores would look and perform awesome on that thing!

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Postby MerlotMax » July 18th, 2016, 11:57 am

Nice job, one of these was my first street bike.

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Postby 63ronin » July 18th, 2016, 6:38 pm

A big ol set of Keihin CR smooth bores would look and perform awesome on that thing!

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Yea... CR's would look good. So would a CBR600 front and and a CB1000 "Big One" swingarm with some nice rear shocks.

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby schmidt314 » July 20th, 2016, 8:54 pm

63ronin wrote:A big ol set of Keihin CR smooth bores would look and perform awesome on that thing!

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Yea... CR's would look good. So would a CBR600 front and and a CB1000 "Big One" swingarm with some nice rear shocks.[/quote]

This ZRX1100 swing arm in my garage would look good on it!
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » February 18th, 2017, 7:11 pm

Well everyone, big changes this year. Seems Wendy and I are moving to Phoenix. I spent the entire day in the garage sorting stuff, packing stuff, throwing stuff out. I've collected way too much stuff. I've filled the back of my Pathfinder with old parts that I'll take over to the metal recycling place. Just not worth the effort to try and sell it all. Of course, I'm keeping all the bikes. I thought about selling one or two to thin the heard. But then I came to my senses. How am I getting it all to Phoenix, you might be asking. Friend of mine in Edmonton is bored. So he is going to come down. We are going to load the bikes (and most of the rest of the garage) into a moving van... and we are going to drive it all to Phoenix where I'll put it all in storage for the time being.

Top on the list for a new house is a mandatory 3 car garage. Won't be settling for anything less. And I think I may have found a shop down there that actually knows something about these old bikes.

Oh... I was thinking of parting with my parts cleaner and motorcycle lift. The hydraulic unit went on the lift. So it doesn't actually lift at the moment. But it is convenient to hold a bike in place when you work on it. Harbor freight wants $430 for a new one. I think I got it for like $350 on sale at some point. I'd let mine go for like $150 since the hydraulic unit is broken. As for the parts cleaner, $25 if anyone wants it. I only ever used it once so it's mostly just a place to stack stuff... Anyhow, I'll probably post that stuff on Craigslist.

Onward and upward to new adventures. It's been a slice...

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Postby RickRick » February 19th, 2017, 11:32 pm

Wow... congrats on the move... I think!!! Lot's of new roads to explore. Best of luck. Please keep in touch!

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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby ELI the ICE man » February 22nd, 2017, 4:44 pm

Tell me more about this parts cleaner.... free standing or table top? Size? details? pics?
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby RickRick » February 25th, 2017, 10:48 pm

When are you taking off for the hotlands.. btw?
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Re: Gil's Garage...

Postby 63ronin » March 5th, 2017, 1:43 pm

OK... seems I'm about as ready to go as I can be. I've thrown out a bunch of stuff. Still have a few things to get rid of.
- Parts Cleaner; Someone is already asking about it. I tried it the other day and the pump is non-functional. I guess that's what happens when you leave something sit for like 10 years. Anyone who wants it can have it (though like I said, already have someone interested)
- Table top blasting cabinet. Typical Harbor Freight unit. Was OK and did what I needed it to. Figure if I ever need another one I'll go buy one. Rather not take it with me to Phoenix. t's like $120 new. So how about $40? Anyone... Anyone...
- I have one of those cool motorcycle lifts. The big one. Again, Harbor Freight special. That thing isn't exactly cheap (about $350 if you get it on sale). Hydraulic unit on mine developed a leak. I'd have fixed it. But I always had a bike on the stand. Thing weighs a ton. I'm inclined to keep it. But if anyone wants to make me a reasonable offer I could probably part with it. If keep it I'll definitely still use it once I have a working garage again.

OK... here are a couple picture of the mess as it now stands. Loading it all up next Saturday (March 11) and driving to Phoenix. And I made sure Wendy's bike actually runs in case I need to unload a bike and race to a gas station or something in an emergency... :clap:

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It looks worse than it is. 90% of the stuff on the shelves is recycle stuff. Honest...

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