The Beast

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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » June 8th, 2015, 10:04 am

Awesome. It sounds fun to ride.
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Re: The Beast

Postby Mossy-Back » June 8th, 2015, 7:53 pm

Sounds like a hell of a bike!
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » July 6th, 2015, 3:00 pm

Bit more work to be done.... :D
Mike tried swapping in some big injectors that can respond much faster because he/we thought that the stock injectors might be near 100% full open never closing at 8k or higher RPM with a heavy hand (which was frequent!)

Took a short trip that immediately popped the injector and bent the injector rail... spraying me with gas and soaking a hot motor.
No flames.... no fire.... limped home safe on one cylinder.

Good news.... one cylinder with the new injectors was about 80% of the former power anyway. :o
I just didn't want to run right, then I noticed all the fuel going everywhere.

Best guess at this time is a stuck relief valve in the fuel pump.

Oh well.... to be continued. Was an entertaining ride for sure. Back on the road with it soon I am sure....

(Mike wanted to stay up that night and fix it until 2AM, but I told him that his family vacation was more important and "NO")... Good guy to work on your bike! Dedication!
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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » July 7th, 2015, 9:05 am

Dedicated & determined to beat the problem too, I'd guess.
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » July 7th, 2015, 10:33 am

oh yes.

Funny thing was I was still lofting the front wheel in 2nd gear (just not as eagar) with fuel spraying out and no pressure to the rear cylinder..... makes me curious how much fun a BUILT single thumper could be.... or just how nice this will be with both cylinders running!!!

It didn't idle or cruise right with just the one cylinder running.... but I didn't know what was wrong until after a few wheelies and dumping a large quantity of fluid at the next stop.
OOPS.

Good thing I did a "test run" before taking it home...

Got to ride 2-up on a ninja300 to get there, and home.... that was fun. Mike did a quick suspension adjustment on it, so it road much better.
Quick side note... the ninja300 came from the factory with the rear pre-load set to nearly the lightest setting.... it's usual rider is a tiny female, guessing 120 lbs or so.... and the correct setting for the rear was actually almost all the way stiff with her on it (gear included).... HOW SMALL DID THEY EXPECT THE AVERAGE RIDER TO BE????? 85 lbs????

When in doubt, throttle out.... unless that just sprays fuel all over the place, including your hot motor and glowing exhaust.
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Re: The Beast

Postby schmidt314 » July 16th, 2015, 7:18 am

Injectors and rail went back in easy as can be. The big injectors even have a dual o-ring seal.

After Eric came back, it wasn't dumping fuel while tuning it, a quick look showed that the rail fitting appears to have been hydrolicly pushed off the injector. This is what leads me to believe that the internal pressure relief valve stuck momentarily. The burst of over pressure bent the fitting as it pressed itself off the injector.

The bike we we got it had some pretty stinky gas in it. I wonder if something momentarily glued it self shut or got debris stuck in it.

Either way, when I get back from Europe we will kick the tires and light the fires on it again after inspection and repair and see how the big injectors work on this engine.

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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » September 24th, 2015, 10:35 am

Figured I should give an update on this one.....

Fuel issues all sorted!!!
I spent "a few" rides gathering fuel mapping data and fine tuning the PC5 to the new BIG injectors.
It was running stronger than ever and quite snappy.
I then rode it back to back with the "prototype" bike... both have similar top end power, but mine has more low/mid range. Mine is more linear... the prototype has a strong surge when it comes into the cams, which has the initial feel of being quicker... but back to back rides confirms that snappy power delivery isn't actually faster (but it is fun!!!).
I think mine has better fuel economy too, despite the extra 100cc's. There are a few differences in the motor overall.....

Anyway.. I said it WAS running stronger.
Now there is a new issue... the electrical charging system stopped working and freaked out the sensors so it won't run. We know it toasted the rectifier... but it now appears that the stator is toast too. It measures fine (shorts/opens), it looks good (currently torn apart in the garage), but the AC output isn't as high as it should be (this might be why the rectifier was toasted).
We thought that it produced enough torque that the magnets broke loose from the epoxy and shifted... but that wasn't the case.

Once that gets fixed, it will be DONE except for a better rear shock and front brake swap to the R1 monoblock radial mount ones.

I have decided to keep it in the stock appearance.... total sleeper.
Schmidt's work on the front end made it just as good as anything, and without the hassle of the swapping that many do (and the stock forks are actually lighter than the GSXRs).
So, except for the pipe, rear shock, and front brakes... oh, and the killer sound when running.... you won't know how pumped it is.

So close..........
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Re: The Beast

Postby Dougo » September 24th, 2015, 2:48 pm

Excellent! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: The Beast

Postby Mossy-Back » September 24th, 2015, 8:30 pm

Sweet!
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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » September 25th, 2015, 3:54 pm

Awesome.
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » September 29th, 2015, 2:44 pm

This just in... Aztec8 is back in business.
They were one of the only companies to offer kits to mount lights/gauges on SV's for faired-to-naked conversions.

Might be going naked after all. :twisted:
But probably not right away... just want to ride it now.
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Re: The Beast

Postby Mossy-Back » September 29th, 2015, 3:59 pm

Like this? Might look familiar, as it used to live on a naked SV650 that a certain R44 member owns. I'm glad they are back in business so that I can get replacement parts as needed.

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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » September 30th, 2015, 11:42 am

yes, but only for dual 4" round side-by-side headlights.
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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » September 30th, 2015, 12:10 pm

ELI the ICE man wrote:yes, but only for dual 4" round side-by-side headlights.

Oh man, that'd look hawt.
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » November 25th, 2015, 11:47 pm

Getting closer.... Charging system works.
However, looks like the PCV might have popped. Still getting an error code. Mike was nice enough to stop by after work today and tried a few things (trouble shooting).
Bottom line, needs new PCV. Now going to go talk with DynoJet and see if they can help.
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » March 25th, 2016, 2:10 pm

After a long wait, Dynojet is sending me a new unit....... Which is good, because my hand is almost healthy enough to safely twist a throttle soon too.
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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » March 25th, 2016, 4:12 pm

Glad to hear you're well on the mend. I was worried about how long that might take.
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » April 10th, 2016, 10:01 pm

Bike mended. Hand is close enough to ride.
It goes fast (the bike, not so much my hand).
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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » April 10th, 2016, 10:50 pm

Take it easy on that hand until you're fully healed. Last thing you want to do is damage it further.
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » April 11th, 2016, 11:15 am

It will be 12 weeks this Wednesday, in which I am released to do everything. And I have ~75% of my strength in that hand.
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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » April 11th, 2016, 11:36 am

Good deal. I'm glad to hear it. You know, if you were going to injure your hand anyway, it's a good thing you decided to do it when you did. You're ready for riding season now. ;-)
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » April 18th, 2016, 1:27 pm

Put a few hundred miles on the bike now that it is together and running strong.
Looks stock, rides very differently.
Posing here with Dad's original RD350.

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Re: The Beast

Postby Mossy-Back » April 18th, 2016, 4:26 pm

Looks good!
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Re: The Beast

Postby Mel » April 18th, 2016, 4:34 pm

They both look great!!
I have an appreciation for things that are understated anyway, so I think it's fun that it looks stock....but SO isn't.

Hats off to you and Mike...Well done :)

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Re: The Beast

Postby wileycoyote » April 18th, 2016, 5:01 pm

Awesome.
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Re: The Beast

Postby gbacon0522 » April 18th, 2016, 9:10 pm

Looks sweet! Did you do a single muffler? Or am I missing the other one from this angle?

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Re: The Beast

Postby RickRick » April 20th, 2016, 8:41 am

Nice RD. That was the first bike I owned!
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » April 20th, 2016, 10:59 am

gbacon0522 wrote:Looks sweet! Did you do a single muffler? Or am I missing the other one from this angle?


Single -- only good obtainable option for SV1ks for power is the full M4 system, which is what is on there.

So yeah, it kinda looks like the SV650 now at a glance (until you notice things like the swing arm and other small differences).


Items left to do....
Brakes -- still need the radial caliper mount conversion and to then mount my monoblock lightweight R1 brakes.
More motor? -- option to further do more work with the cam timing.... not sure it needs any more though.
Rear shock -- stock rear right now, rides pretty good now that the front was redone, but it could be better.
Seat -- new cover to fix small tear.
Front end -- Decide if I want to make it naked or not.... kinda liking it the way it is more and more.... besides, I just want to ride it and stop messing with it!

Oh, and the gas milage is getting better and better as it breaks in.... we were predicting only about 30 mpg... but I got 32 mpg racing about the mountains, 37.5 mpg cruising on the freeway, and a crazy 50 mpg when I was stuck behind many cars on a back road just putting at ~50 MPH in 4th gear.
Basically, it gets just as good of mileage as the Z1k (maybe, I think), but has so much more power. The Z1k gets almost the same milage no matter what you do... this SV1100RR (what I am calling it) is pretty variable depending on how you twist it.

RickRick wrote:Nice RD. That was the first bike I owned!

Same with my Dad... bought it new in 1973 and still rides it.\

I have put a few hundred miles on it since the last change, so I am trusting it more and more (working out any glitches).
Needs to have heads retorqued (or checked anyway). And I should tidy up some of the PCV wiring.....
... and then I need to show up to a bike night down south again.
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Re: The Beast

Postby gbacon0522 » April 20th, 2016, 5:16 pm

I think if you decide to go 'naked' some gsxr forks are in order. Just for looks. Looks great as is though!

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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » April 26th, 2016, 2:52 pm

I have GSXR forks... but that also requires some other work and parts... and right now, with the rework and new springs that Schmidt did, the OEM ones function fantastically!!! There are no performance reasons for me to change right now, and I just want to ride it and stop wrenching on it.
Besides, the OEM look is deceptive and sneaky. If it looks too fancy, I am sure I will earn more performance awards.
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Re: The Beast

Postby Dougo » June 1st, 2016, 4:14 pm

absolutely beautiful. You do wonderful work! I covet your gift.....

I know, I know, you earned it... I covet it anyway...
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Re: The Beast

Postby Dustpan » June 1st, 2016, 10:08 pm

Just an FYI: If your Dad's RD should turn up missing, I don't have it..... :lolno:
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » June 3rd, 2016, 2:41 pm

Dustpan wrote:Just an FYI: If your Dad's RD should turn up missing, I don't have it..... :lolno:


If that happens... it will be because I am out tearing around on it.
We have worked on tweaking the carbs and such and it pulls pretty good now, and the power feels broad for that motor now.
For only 39hp, its pretty fast (doesn't weight anything!).
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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » June 7th, 2019, 1:55 pm

After 3 years I did some more mods..... :clap:

Adjustable cam gears... changed the cam timing to boost power across the entire rev range. It isn't as smooth to ride because it is so snappy now, but it power wheelies in 3rd gear.
DO NOT GRAB A HANDFUL OF THROTTLE IN 1ST GEAR!
Before 1st gear blips would stand it up... now 2nd gear does... 3rd gear takes a heavy hand... but no clutch required to lift the front.

It feels like a nastier B-king with 2/3 the weight. It just pulls strong. 4 gear roll-ons will pull the bars from your hands if you are not expecting it (I wasn't the first time). :shock:

Also added street fighter bars because I have developed a bad back (possible arthritis) and can't ride laid over any more (and leaning on hands isn't an option for good riding). :(
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Re: The Beast

Postby Mel » June 8th, 2019, 4:12 pm

Really good to hear you're still riding, and tweaking things on the project bike. Sounds like you'll need to install a seatbelt haha!

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Re: The Beast

Postby ELI the ICE man » June 11th, 2019, 10:07 am

Not many decent groups to ride with up here... but I still get out.
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Re: The Beast

Postby RickRick » June 26th, 2019, 8:29 pm

ELI the ICE man wrote:Not many decent groups to ride with up here... but I still get out.


You know you could always set up a group ride down here... or just ride down and rattle the cages
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